Tuesday, January 24, 2023

57 Official Positions of the Republican Party

1. There were good people on both sides in Charlottesville 

2. Nobody cares about abortion, they care about gas prices

3. The 2020 election was stolen

4. Fauci belongs in jail

5. The department of education should be eliminated

6. The Affordable Care Act should be repealed

7. More drilling, more pipelines, less regulation of oil and gas

8. The minimum wage should be repealed

9. Abortion should be a felony

10. Contraception should be tightly controlled

11. Global Warming is a hoax

12. School boards should ban books 

13. Gay marriages should be abolished

14. Teachers are a dangerous lot

15. Universities are indoctrination centers

16. Seniors are abusing social security

17. Cities are crime ridden.

18. World wide conditions do not affect the USA

19. Europe sucks

20. Putin is a respectable leader, perhaps a genius, and deserves obedience

21. Women in the workplace might be a problem

22. Dems are communists

23. Internet pornography should be a crime

24. LGBTQ people are a problem

25. Guns are not a problem

26. Science cannot be trusted

27. Expertise is irrelevant

28. Vaccines kill more than the virus does

29. The profit motive is always respectable

30. Power is worth any price

31. Hypocrisy is normal

32. Christians should run everything

33. Yedolf is a credible leader

34. Former presidents are above the law

35. Nick Fuentes is one of us

36. Honesty is for fools

37. Armed protesters are a good thing

38. Drag shows should be crimes

39. Librarians should do what the mob demands

40. Ukraine should surrender

41. Steve Bannon is innocent

42. Mike Flynn has a lot of credibility

43. Rudy Giuliani is a brilliant man

44. The world would be better if J6 had succeeded

45. More money for the unaccountable pentagon

46. Taxes are always too high

47. Atheism should not be allowed

48. Disproving what I say violates my free speech rights

49. BRICS er, uh  

50. Gas stoves are harmless if we say so

51. The facts about litter boxes in public schools deserve congressional investigation

52. Interdictions at the border prove that the border is wide open

53. Obama really was going to invade Texas

54. Groomers never go to church 

55. McCarthy is a strong leader 

56. MTG belongs on the House Intelligence Committee

57. George Santos can lead our party  







Monday, January 23, 2023

What is an "Advanced Culture", Graham Hancock?

I am deeply distrustful about the "Advanced" part of what Graham Hancock and other Atlantis writers discuss.  

The term advanced is a comparative. To use it is to imply a comparison.  The same is true of many words, such as tall, short, large, small, warm, cool, hot, cold, soft, hard, smooth, rough, etc.  All of these terms imply a comparison. A tall 3rd grader is tall compared to his or her cohort, while a tall adult is tall by comparison with a different standard, and a tall building by yet another.  A soft rock is soft by a different standard than we apply when we talk about soft ice cream or soft money.  

The same sort of clarification is necessary when someone talks about an advanced civilization.  Advanced compared to what?  Is Hancock's civilization advanced compared to the era of the younger dryas, or compared to the time of Plato, or compared to our times, or what?  

Let us call this the logic of the term advanced, that it implies a comparison.  

There is another question to consider, namely, what is required in order to call something advanced?  In this case we are talking about what is required in order to rightfully say that one civilization is more advanced than another. What does it?  One innovation more?  Would that do it?  Does it require a large number of innovations?  Suppose all of them were in one area, such as husbandry or ship building or well-digging.  Would being many generations advanced in one area, but on equal terms in all others, be enough for a civilization to be called advanced as compared with its peers?  Why or why not?  What would justify such a designation?  

Let us call this the material problem of the term advanced: one needs a criterion to apply the term.  

These are the two burdens Hancock must meet if he is to make sense out of his concept of an "advanced civilization".  

Consider the two propositions below:

1 There was a culture in N America during the Younger Dryas

2 There was an advanced culture in N America during the Younger Dryas 

These differ by one word.  In order to defend 2, Hancock must specify the logic of his claim by saying just what the culture in question is more advanced than, but he must also specify the material of his claim as well, by saying what makes it more advanced than this other culture. 












Tuesday, January 17, 2023

Nietzsche vs Postmodern Style: The battle for good prose

 *This is an unused portion of a longer chapter on Nietzsche vs Postmodern Style


As both a writer and a teacher of writing, Nietzsche had a professional interest in the causes of bad writing.  On the basis of that interest, one can imagine him reading some postmodern prose, if only to discover, describe and diagnose its tendencies.  This section glosses a few things that Nietzsche identified as bad writing.  Many of them are exhibited by postmodern prose.  It also looks at a few of his many remarks about the causes of bad writing. 

I have already noted (*earlier in this chapter) the postmodern ‘rage for originality’, its love of difficult talk, its disdain for clarity, its resort to ‘boneless generalities’ and its wish to appear paradoxical.  Each of those trails leads to bad writing.  Another route to bad writing lies in the habit of elevating style above content, which is inevitable with postmodernists because their school rejects the signified.  Another cause of bad writing is the elevation of a reformatory morality above standard practices in prose, which is endemic to postmodern theory.  In addition to these and other larger trends, there are many smaller tendencies in the writing that help in their own ways to make postmodern prose insufferable.  Among these, one may observe the habit of placing

Darkness and excessive brightness side by side. – Writers who in general are unable to express their thoughts with clarity will in individual instances take pleasure in employing the strongest, most exaggerated designations and superlatives: thus producing a light-effect like torches on confused forest pathways.  (HH 204 complete)

Perhaps Derrida feels like he can see better when he contrasts against ‘absolute’ this or that, or against what is ‘simply’ this or that – perhaps he grasps something by means of a too bright imprecision. 

Insignia of rank. – All poets and writers enamoured of the superlative want to do more than they can.  (HH II 141 complete)

Contrasting against superlatives might indicate a high degree of aspiration.  It might also indicate a

Two Horse Team. – Unclear thinking and sentimental emotionalism are as frequently united with a ruthless will to self-assertion, to ascendancy at all cost, as is a warm benevolence and desire to help with the drive to clean and clear thinking, to moderation and restraint.  (HH III 196 complete)

Postmodern thought would be unrecognizable without its ‘sentimental emotionalism.’  As for self-assertion, well, it is easy to see how postmodern prose writers work to promote the who, that is, themselves, through their how, that is, their style. 

The inflated style. – An artist who wants, not to discharge his high swollen feelings in his work and so unburden himself, but rather to communicate precisely this feeling of swollenness, is bombastic and his style is the inflated style.  (D 332 complete)

An inflated and bombastic style using exaggerated expressions to feed swollen moral feelings to the audience and thus ascend to tenure and honors – how postmodern is that? 

Another factor lurking behind the morally charged prose of postmodernism could be what Nietzsche identified as the

Chief reason for corruption of style. –To desire to demonstrate more feeling for a thing than one actually has corrupts one’s style, in both language and all the arts.  All great art has, rather, the opposite tendency: like every man of moral consequence, it likes to arrest the feelings on their course and not allow them to run quite to their conclusion.  This modesty which keeps the feelings only half-visible can be observed at its fairest in, for example, Sophocles; and it seems to transfigure the features of the feelings when they present themselves as being more sober than they are.  (HH III 136 complete) 

Corrupt style lets the feelings predominate.  In contrast, Nietzsche admires ‘the economy of the great style: keeping our strength, our enthusiasm in harness’ (A, Preface).  The great style uses strength and enthusiasm, but is not their voice. Feelings are badly inflated in the land of PoMo prose, so inflated that understatement is ineffective there.

After the Greeks.   Knowledge is at present very much obstructed by the fact that all words have, through centuries of exaggerated feeling, become vaporous and inflated.  The higher level of culture that places itself under the dominion (if not indeed under the tyranny) of knowledge has need of a great sobriety of feeling and a strong concentration of all words; in which matter the Greeks of the age of Demosthenes have preceded us.  All modern writing is characterized by exaggeratedness; and even when it is written simply the words it contains are felt too eccentrically.  Rigorous reflection, terseness, coldness, simplicity, deliberately pursued even to their limit, self-containment of the feelings and silence in general – that alone can help us. – Moreover, this cold manner of writing and feeling is now as a contrast, very stimulating: and in that there lies, to be sure, a great danger.  For biting coldness is just as much a stimulant as a high degree of warmth.  (HH 195 complete) [i] 

Like Nietzsche’s moderns, our postmodernists also produce writing ‘characterized by exaggeratedness.’  Nietzsche’s remedy against this bad writing habit: ‘Rigorous reflection, terseness, coldness, simplicity, deliberately pursued even to their limit, self-containment of the feelings and silence in general.’  Each of these goals is anathema to postmodern reading and writing, which thrives on exaggeration, passion, wishful thinking, rigid moralism and overindulgence in writer and reader alike. 

Why are postmodern writers in love with overstatement and exaggeration?  Many factors might contribute to it. 

Excess. – The mother of excess is not joy, but joylessness.  (HH II 77 complete)

Mistrust of oneself. – Mistrust of oneself does not always go about shy and uncertain but sometimes as though mad with rage: it has got drunk so as not to tremble.  (HH II 80 complete) 

Belief in oneself. – In our age we distrust everyone who believes in himself: in former ages it sufficed to make others believe in us. The recipe for obtaining belief now is: ‘Do not spare yourself! If you want to place your opinions in a believable light first set fire to your own house!’ (HH III 319 complete)

Joylessness, a rage that numbs, and a will to be admired unto the point of self-immolating – each of these might account for a share of the excessive in postmodern prose.  And remember, 

Of vain old men. – Deep thought pertains to youth, clear thought to age: when old men nonetheless sometimes speak and write in the manner of deep thinkers they do so out of vanity, in the belief that they will thereby assume the charm of enthusiastic youth, evolving and full of hope and presentiment.  (HH II 289 complete) 

Is there a factor of pretending to be young in PoMo prose?  Possibly so.  Ecclesiastes says, ‘The more words, the more vanity’ (6:11). 

Finally, on the matter of human weaknesses and their contributions to bad style, consider this:

Style of superiority. –  Student-German, the dialect of the German student, has its origin among those students who do not study yet who know how to attain a kind of ascendancy over their more serious colleagues by exposing everything that is masquerade in education, decency, erudition, orderliness, moderation, and, though employing terms belonging to these domains just as continually as their better and more learned colleagues, do so with malice in their eyes and an accompanying grimace.  It is in this language of superiority – the only one original to Germany – that our statesmen and newspaper critics too now involuntarily speak; it is a continual resort to ironical imitations, a restless, discontented, furtive squinting to left and right, a German of quotation-marks and grimaces.  (HH III 228 complete)

Redirected:

Style of superiority. –  Postmodern style, the dialect of the postmodernist, has its origin among those students and writers who do not study yet who know how to attain a kind of ascendancy over their more serious colleagues by exposing everything that is masquerade in education, decency, erudition, orderliness, moderation, and, though employing terms belonging to these domains just as continually as their better and more learned colleagues, do so with malice in their eyes and an accompanying grimace.  It is in this language of superiority – the only one original to Germany – that our politicians and journalists too now involuntarily speak; it is a continual resort to ironical imitations, a restless, discontented, furtive squinting to left and right, a style of quotation-marks and grimaces. 

There is another passage through which one can deepen one’s appreciation of the connection between the style of superiority and the style of postmodern prose.  Just think about recent French uses of German philosophers (especially Nietzsche and Heidegger) and all this has brought about. 

German and French literature. – The misfortune for the German and French literature of the last hundred years lies in the fact that the Germans left the French school too soon – and that later the French entered the German school too soon.  (HH III 94 complete) 

As Nietzsche sees it, the French school of philosophy became ‘the school of skepticism’ and a display case for the ‘charms’ of skepticism (BGE 208).  Lamentably, they acquired from the Germans not only idealist metaphysics, but also bad writing habits (i.e., Hegelian obscurantism) with which to perpetuate their school of doubts.  Thus did the school of skeptics recently beget a pantheon of Hegelian-Wagnerian obscurantists.  Meanwhile, had they studied the French more deeply, the Germans may have learned to write better sooner, and to meet Hegel with prose that very clearly deserved to stand above his.  

            If the Hegelian-Wagnerian arts of excited moral wheel-spinning, or style-crimping weaknesses of human nature, or the German ‘style of superiority’ are actual historical roots of the torture we have all come to know as postmodern prose style, Nietzsche is on record describing and critiquing each of those roots.  



[i] Nietzsche warns against allowing the cold and dry to become a too often used stimulant, and thus an invitation to cold and dry beastly ideals, cold and dry lack of repose, cold and dry addiction to tension.  The fact that the cold and dry can be a stimulant, however, suggests that it can be used to remedy the vice of emotional writing, reading and listening that Nietzsche sees as a delayer of the search for knowledge. 

Cold books. – The good thinker counts on readers who appreciate the happiness that lies in good thinking: so that a book distinguished by coldness and sobriety can, when viewed through the right eyes, appear as though played about by the sunshine of spiritual cheerfulness and as a true comfort for the soul.  (HH II 142 complete)


Thursday, January 12, 2023

Nietzsche vs Postmodern Style: The Wanderer and His Shadow


This is an unused subsection from a longer chapter on N and Postmodern Style. View part 1 here


Nietzsche does not think about writing the way that postmodernists do.  In addition, he does not evaluate writing the way that postmodernists do.  All of his published books include statements on style and writers, so, it is easy to recite passages on style from Nietzsche.  It is also easy to find among those statements his negative judgments of assorted stylistic tendencies.  Some of those tendencies are endemic to postmodernist writing.  To demonstrate that proposition briefly, I shall review seven such judgments, all of them complete, brief aphorisms from HH III, The Wanderer and His Shadow. 

Rare feasts. – Pithy compactness, reposefulness and maturity – where you find these qualities in an author stop and celebrate a long feast in the midst of the wilderness: it will be a long time before you experience such a sense of wellbeing again. (108) 

Painted skeletons. – Painted skeletons are those authors who would like to compensate with artificial coloring for what they lack in flesh.  (147)

The typical postmodern author is more like a painted skeleton than a rare feast.  Indeed, ‘pithy compactness’ and ‘reposefulness’ describe no aspects of postmodern writing. 

Fine style. –The invented style is an offense to the friend of fine style. (120)

The postmodern style of writing is mostly a painted and artificial style.  And of course, an invented style can be painfully prolific, which must be an issue for  

The half-blind. – The half-blind are the mortal foes of authors who let themselves go.  They would like to vent on them the wrath they feel when they slam shut a book whose author has taken fifty pages to communicate five ideas: their wrath, that is, at having endangered what is left of their eyesight for so little recompense. – A half-blind man said: all authors let themselves go. – ‘Even the Holy Ghost?’ – Even the Holy Ghost.  But with him it was all right: he wrote for the totally blind.  (143)

The severely myopic Nietzsche is as good a model as any for thinking about the half-blind readers described in this passage.  Who can imagine Nietzsche spending any of the few hours of painless eyesight allotted him each day on our contemporary masters of elongated moral tedium?  The physical specimen he is militates against it, and his taste ran against it.  His understanding of human development warned him against it, too.

Plentiful authors. – The last thing a good author acquires is plentifulness; he who brings it with him will never be a good author.  The noblest race-horses are lean until they have won the right to rest and recover from their victories.  (141)

Like the authors of artificial styles, writers of the overly complex postmodern style always have a lot to say, regardless of how experienced they are.  Would Nietzsche want to read it? 

Vow. – I intend never again to read an author of whom it is apparent that he wanted to produce a book: but only those whose thoughts unintentionally became a book.  (121)

 Resolution. – Never again to read a book that was born and baptized (with ink) simultaneously.  (130)

Postmodern writing is primarily a professional activity.  It is done on the clock.  There is something forced about it.  Something about it makes the task of writing all too easy for writers. 

These few passages from the Wanderer, taken all by themselves, make it clear that Nietzsche would be unlikely to read or enjoy postmodern prose. 

Monday, July 18, 2022

Bonhoffer on Stupidity

 There is a video about this topic at youtube that spurred my reflections here.  




The stupidity Bonhoffer studied was the stupidity of the Nazis in 1930s Germany.  It was a public and contagious stupidity.  For Bonhoffer, this kind of stupidity is more dangerous than malice.  More importantly, it is more of a moral failing, than an intellectual one.  It may be primarily a failure of the system around him or her, but somehow the individual has given up autonomy and self-direction for the sake of something else.  

I just want to mention that the rise of monotheism is an incidence of the stupidity under discussion in Bonhoffer.  Every monotheism starts in violence against all other religions.  The destruction of paganism in ancient Rome, a crime against humanity that took three centuries to complete, speaks for itself.  The crusades, especially the children's crusade, reveal that same stupidity.  The inquisition does as well.  And what are we to say about the murder of the natives of the Americas, and the commercial enslavement of Africans?  Christian stupidity surely played its role there.  The pogroms, the witch burnings and the American lynch mobs all belong under the heading of Christian stupidity.  

Bonhoffer's Law: authoritarian power grows as stupidity does.  

Hard to forget that. 

Meanwhile, however, monotheism is just authoritarianism in religious garb. It insists that everyone is subject to it, it judges everyone, it respects no opponents, it looks down on all arts and sciences, on all other pursuits and interests.  It believes in its right to dictate to all.  Nothing is more important, nothing is more self-righteous than monotheism.  Anything that will not bend a knee to monotheism is reviled, debased, shunned or killed.  Replace the one god with the one party and you have pure authoritarianism in political rather than religious garb.  

In Trump's Big Lie we saw something rare, the birth of a religion.  Moreover, the birth of a monotheism.  It was and is an attack on all other modes of thought, and a self-exaltation above all science and art.  And of course, it is based on a lie.  All religions are based on lies. No religion could ever arise around a true statement because you could just know it was true.  You don't need to believe it, so you don't need a religion to make you believe it. 


Tuesday, May 3, 2022

Dems need to win the "emotional argument" this time...

It is not uncommon to hear that the Republican party wins the emotional arguments while the Democratic party wins the issues arguments in American politics.  As a 60 year old cynic, I will parse that by saying exactly what it means to me: the Dems talk shop while R's appeal to fear. 

Yes, that is right, I am saying that the so-called emotional argument is an appeal to fear (and reassurance of those who are scared). Reagan did not get votes by talking about a shining city on a hill. He won votes by stoking fear of government, communists and welfare queens, and promised a shining city once they were dealt with. 

To counter the Republican fear machine, divert the fear to something else, namely, to the GOP.  

Socialism is one of the GOP's fear campaigns.  Crime is another.  Drugs are another.  Oil shortages, inflation, tax increases, immigration, gun confiscation, bad trade deals -- all of these are things to fear and the GOP will harp on them to get votes.  Fear did not keep Netanyahu in office in spite of a shooting war last week in Israel.  Fear does not always win, but it wins a lot of races.  

Alongside their fear campaigns, the GOP has resentment/hate campaigns.  They appeal to resentment against teachers, professors, scientists, scholars, librarians, philosophers, lawyers, doctors, pharmacists, accountants, statisticians, tech heads.  You name it.  If its a recognizable line of profession, the GOP doles out hatred against it.  They also dole out resentment against select groups of the laity: feminists, LGBTQ peeps, leftists, liberals, democrats, government workers, unions and their members, Hollywood types, bleeding hearts, environmentalists, and do gooders of all variety.  

To answer the resentment campaigns, liberals and Dems need to refocus the resentment onto our enemies. 

But I am here to talk about fear.  What the Dems need are a set of fears to discuss relating to the GOP.  I have produced a short list of things that everyone should fear in the GOP.  

1. They will force their religion on us all.  There was a bill in the AZ house last year that would have forced everyone to attend church.  That is the kind of thing the GOP stands for. 

2. They will outlaw abortion and contraception. 

3. They will outlaw alcohol.  

4. They will outlaw pornography.

5. They will outlaw stip shows, and censor Broadway and Las Vegas. 

6. They will force students to pray out loud in public schools.

7.  They will force public schools to teach religion. 

8. They will outlaw marijuana nationwide 

9. They will outlaw any and all criticism of (their ugly, stupid) religion. (Blasphemy laws)

10. They will create an ethno-state, with a class based society where Protestants are on top

11. They will start religious wars 

12. They will censor musical lyrics

13. They will ban all religions except Christianity and Judaism (just like ancient Rome)

14. They will ban women from the military, police, fire and medical fields

15. They will force religion into professional sports broadcasts

16. They will censor the libraries. No more reading Nietzsche's Antichrist.  No more Thomas Payne.  

17. They will outlaw LGBTQ everything they can 

18. They will outlaw discussions of history that they do not approve 

19. They will outlaw having an opinion of the behavior of powerful people 

20. They will outlaw public protests and demonstrations 

21. They will impose English as an official language 

22  They will outlaw gay marriage and unmarry the gays nationwide 

I understand that there is plenty to fear in the GOP already. The party and its acolytes are immune to reason, facts and logic. They are hell bent on getting their way, and no longer feel the need to acknowledge the legitimacy of those who disagree with them.  The leadership of the party is covering up a violent insurrection on the part of their most rabid followers.  The leadership of the party seems to have no goal in sight other than the next election, which their state parties are preparing to steal.  2024 is not what they are thinking about.  The party is a whirling and deepening cesspool of incompetence, corruption, bigotry and violent rhetoric.  I fear all of that.  But you can't run on it!  It's too complicated and dark for a political campaign.  It cannot be packaged in ads.  It cannot be dropped into conversation quickly by lefties at the water coolers of the world.  

But the statement that the GOP will outlaw all religions other than their own, can be dropped into conversations quickly.  The statement that they will outlaw all abortions can be, and so can the statement that they will force us all to go to church, or force religion into public schools, or force kids to pray, or force women out of the military, or force LGBTQ kids to go to forced reeducation camps.  Those sorts of statements about the GOP bigot party are the sort that the world needs to hear more of.  Lots and lots more, from lots and lots of us lefties.  So get out there and say this stuff. Add simple assertions like this to tweets and posts. 

The idea is to use simple stuff to create fear of the GOP, and to develop a whisper campaign against them of the sort they have been running against us for decades.  They call us socialists, gun grabbers, tree huggers, baby killers, PC, woke, communists and a lot more.  This stuff works and has taken over a portion of the center in America.  Plenty of left leaning types fall for this stuff.  Plenty of middle of the roaders are wary of left ideas like raising the minimum wage, or lowering carbon emissions, or taxing the rich, because they have been taught to be wary of those "socialists" and "baby killers" and "pinkos" etc.  

We need to make sure the persuadables in undecided camp know what to fear from the GOP. The menace of electoral fraud, or of electoral nullification by state legislatures, or of voter suppression will not work as well.  Most people only hear a little bit of politics a week.  Most people do not take in the news. The electoral stuff is too remote, dark and difficult to spark fear of the GOP.  But the news that they want to force religion on everyone, and outlaw alcohol and gay marriage will sink in and stay there.  

Win the emotional argument=win the fear argument. 


Note: I wrote this several months ago.  I am putting it up barely edited today, after the leak of the Roe decision from SCOTUS. 



Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Arguments Against Theism: Proving a Negative

An annoyance I often feel in theism versus atheism debates centers on the fact that atheists frequently do not work hard enough on disproving the gods.  I think that the correct approach is to induce total skepticism about the very categories 'gods' and 'existence of gods' every chance you get.  

Remember that your aim is not to convince the theist, nor is it to defend yourself (something rarely necessary), but to give your audience permission to free themselves from religious dogma.  You will not convert the theist, but you will learn how to argue your position more effectively, and give permission and ammunition to others by arguing in public.  So, argue. 

You can win the argument over and over again in the minds of your audience no matter what the theist says or does, because disproof can be quite powerful and hard to attack.  It can also be easy to remember.  It can stick in the heads of your audience until months later.  So, always emphasize the disproofs of the gods if you have some. 

A very important rule: Never accept the thesis that you cannot prove a negative.  If you do that, you cede the territory you should be standing on.  Never do it.  Of course you can prove a negative. The idea that one cannot prove a negative is a confused one. 

The difficulty of proving a negative exists only for empirical/inductive arguments. 

There is no such trouble for deductive arguments. To demonstrate this fact, examine the following deductive arguments. 

1 Gods are sanctified talking monkeys who live in the sky, but no talking monkey lives in the sky, therefore, there are no gods,  

2 Gods are invisible language users, but all language users are visible, therefore, there are no gods. 

3 Gods are invisible people, but all people are visible, therefore, there are no gods. 

4 Gods are people who can hear the unspoken thoughts of other people, but people cannot hear the unspoken thoughts of other people, therefore, there are no gods. 

5 Gods are unlimited in their ability to understand and use the world's languages, but all language users are limited to a relatively few languages, therefore, there are not gods. 

6 Gods are immortal, but all living things are mortal, therefore there are no living gods. 

7 Everything that exists is natural, and nature cannot make a god, therefore no gods exist. 

8 If Christianity is true, there would be people coming back from the dead, but no one comes back from the dead, therefore, Christianity is not true. 

9 If gods existed, there would be signs of them, but there are no signs of them, therefore there are no gods.  

10 Gods are sanctified persons who live in the sky, but no person lives in the sky, therefore there are no gods.

All of the arguments above are deductive, all of them are such that if their premises are true their conclusion follows necessarily. 

An argument can only fail in two ways: either its premises fail to support its conclusion, or it has a false premise.  These arguments are valid, meaning that their premises support their conclusions.  So, the only defense against any of them is to point out a false premise.  That is not easy.  When it happens, you must defend your premises.  

I like to discuss argument 8 above.  Nobody likes the premise that Christian immortality tales directly imply that there would be people coming back from the dead around us. The premise is true nonetheless, because if all of the dead people are still alive and heaven is a free and open society, then they are free to roam the earth.  If the dead are not free to roam the earth, then heaven is not a free and open society, meaning that heaven is not heaven, and thus Christianity is false on another front. But because Christian heaven is supposed to be heaven, and therefore free and open, it follows that some of the dead should be roaming the earth.  They are not.  Therefore, Christianity is wrong about life after death, because if they were right about it, we would see the effects of it, but we do not.  

Argument 9 above is essentially a schematic for an argument like 8, because the word "signs" is so vague it could mean almost anything.  It helps to put in a specific sign, like argument 8 does.  Nonetheless, 9 is useful as stated, because when you are arguing against someone whose world view cancels all value and authority in all other world views, you might as well throw hard balls.  And argument 9 is a hard ball across the plate.  See if they can hit it.  Argument 9 has two premises and a conclusion.  

If there were gods, there would be signs of them

There are no signs of them

Therefore, there are no gods

The form here is called Modus Tollens.  It is deductively valid, so, its premises fully support its conclusion. The only thing that can go wrong here is a false premise.  So examine each.  Invite your opposition to examine them.  

I believe that lots of people are too shy to talk about what they actually take as signs of a god's existence or agency.  Things like having a useful idea at an opportune time, sensing a presence in solitude, or talking to the gods can be hard to articulate and open one up to ridicule.  So, do not expect much effort from theists in refuting the second premise.  They do not believe it, they think they have the signs, but they are unlikely to publicly recite them.  So, their likely move is to try and reject the first premise.  They will assert that gods can exist without any signs of their existence.  When this occurs, press the meaning question, what does it mean to exist without any sign of it?  By sign we just mean effects, any effect is a sign.  If I leave footprints, that is an effect of walking, and a sign of it.  If I breathe, it disturbs the air around me, and that effect is a sign of my being.  Essentially, the theist has just taken the position that a thing can exist without having any effects on other existing things.  At this point you can try to chase the theist into the contradiction that a thing can exist without existing, because existence and causation are so close to one another that it is all but inconceivable how a thing can exist without having effects on other things.  

If the theist wants a special status for gods, such that gods are the only thing that exists that does not have effects, they have embraced the torturous thought that the most important category of existence is the one that is the most inconsequential.    

All of the above arguments are strong, but the strongest are 6 and 7.  6 is the easiest to defend, so let's discuss argument 7 first.  It has two premises. 

Everything that exists is natural

Nature cannot produce a god

Therefore, no gods exist. 

Again, if the premises are true, the conclusion follows with necessity, so, the only way to attack this argument is to falsify one of its premises.  The theist probably believes in some way or another that his or her god is supernatural, and that this argument does not touch on such a deity.  Their thinking involves a proposition different from the first premise here.  They assume that everything that exists is either natural or supernatural.  From this they reason that supernatural causation accounts for supernatural things, and natural causation for natural things.  Do not help them out by supplying that kind of clarity.  Remember, you are not merely arguing for yourself or for the sake of the theist, you are arguing for the freedom of all humanity from superstition based authoritarianism (i.e. religion).  

If the theist wants to supply the category 'supernatural' for themselves, start pressing the meaning question. Be sure to say, 'there is no such thing as the supernatural' when the time comes. If they insist there is, demand reasons.  If they have no reason for affirming such a thing, then you need no reason for denying it.  You have just as many reasons for denying it as they have for affirming it as long as you are both on zero.  If they give a reason, then you need one.  Also, if you have them on the ropes, and explain that the two of you are equally without reasons for your views, you can then advance your position by giving a reason, and explaining that you have one and they do not, which makes your position much better than theirs.  So, it is best to have at least one reason for dismissing the supernatural.  The best kind you could give would be one that demonstrates a contradiction in the concept of the supernatural.  

Argument 6 is quite strong and almost defends itself.  It has two premises. 

Gods are immortal

All living things are mortal

Therefore, no gods are living things 

If the premises are true, the conclusion follows with necessity, so, the theist has no choice but to reject a premise here.  They will not reject the first premise because their god is supposed to be immortal.  Their only choice is the second premise. But the second premise is hard to argue with.  It is an empirical claim.  To disprove it requires an example of a living immortal thing, just as disproving the thesis that all fire hydrants are red requires pointing out just one non-red fire hydrant.  If they point to a living thing, it might die tomorrow.  It is not immortal yet, in other words.  Indeed, every day it has to be checked to see if it is still a candidate for immortality, or if it has died.  That goes for their silly god as well as any other entity they might point out.  All of them are mere candidates for immortality, and will remain that way for all time. There is no day on which they prove their immortality, because they have to still exist the day after that to count as immortal, and after that, and after that.  Assessing the immortality of a thing requires an infinite progression through time.  So, the theist will never have their example of an existing thing that is immortal to point at, and so the theist will never be able to falsify the second premise. 

Meanwhile the skeptic is happy with his or her knowledge that there can be no credible counter example to the second premise of this argument.  And senses that it is almost safe to deem this argument not only valid, but sound.  

My point in all of this is to encourage anti-theists to make the effort to argue for universally negative propositions about the gods. There is no such thing, and there can be no such thing as gods.  And we can argue quite forcefully for that thesis, and even prove it. 




Religion turns value backward

In the sphere of thought, absurdity and perversity remain the masters of the world, and their dominion is suspended only for brief periods. ...